Showing posts with label huawei p10. Show all posts
Showing posts with label huawei p10. Show all posts

Saturday

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Cutting corners in a cut-throat market


Any press is good press, or so they say. That’s a phrase often used when a company finds itself in a precarious situation — but as Samsung learned first hand, in a hyperactive segment like this ever changing mobile space, the smallest misstep can turn out to have grave ramifications.


Huawei is learning this first hand with the negative press surrounding its recently-launched P10 and P10 Plus series of devices. They are no stranger to negative press surrounding the quality of their hardware. First came the Nexus 6P build quality debacle with shattering visors and bending devices, and recently the Honor 6X screen and build quality issues notched another one in their belt. One would think they would be walking a finer line when it comes to their smartphones, but the latest news surrounding them says otherwise.



As Aamir wrote about in an earlier article, Huawei is in the midst of a controversy due to how it handles its flagships’ components. They have already admitted to sourcing components from various sources, but further investigation is showing that these components feature vastly different technologies and capabilities from RAM speeds to the type of internal memory that is used. Utilizing components from various sources is a very common practice among OEM’s. Samsung does this with its cameras in its flagships known to alternate between its own ISOCELL sensor and a Sony one. Apple does this with its SOC’s alternating between Samsung and TSMC for manufacturing (which has brought its share of negative press) and it is widely known that HTC sources its displays from multiple partners too. 


Batteries, displays, cameras, internal storage, and RAM can all be sourced from various partners. This helps supply chain constraints and it can also help with quality assurance… generally, it is perfectly fine. What is not fine is when these components offer vastly differing experiences depending on your luck of the draw, which is what Huawei is offering right now. While many users may never notice a difference between LPDDR3 and LPDDR4 or UFS 2.1 and eMMC 5.1; there is a quantifiable difference, and when you are paying flagship prices every customer deserves the same or at the very least a similar experience. By giving users a random combination of RAM and storage types, their customers aren’t buying a flagship, but a lottery ticket for a chance to earn the full product Huawei advertised.


Unlike other cases of component variety with a smartphone line, a large part of Huawei’s advertising relied entirely on the flagship components a user might have. Huawei, like many other Chinese manufacturers, puts a clear and heavy emphasis on marketing their devices’ power and performance. It’s no surprise, then, that they’d pick the faster RAM and UFS2.1 storage as talking points for their ad campaigns and promotional materials. In fact UFS2.1 was advertised for all markets of the Mate 9 as recently as last week; however, today only a few market pages actually show that specification. Obviously, though, it becomes a problem when a significant portion of P10 customers may not get the UFS 2.1 storage, or the LPDDR4 RAM, or both. People paid for a flagship under the notion that they’d get a flagship, with flagship components throughout. When people pay for a Samsung device, ISOCELL and Sony sensors offer comparable performance with differences that, to my knowledge, haven’t shown significant and quantifiable deltas — there is a mostly-lateral difference between the two. There is a clear hierarchy between LPDDR4 and LPDDR3 RAM, however, and the same goes for UFS 2.1 and eMMC 5.1 storage.



A worrying aspect to much of this is what it means for what Huawei is as a company, and what it’s trying to do. Giving credit where it is due, Huawei devices have come a long way. The Mate 9 and Honor 8 Pro are fantastic phones offering a solid build, vastly-improved software, and an overall appealing package. Huawei is trying hard to break into the large and somewhat stagnant US market and while on the surface they have nearly all the components to succeed, the lack of good decision making from Huawei serves to undermine all that they have accomplished. It’s not just their phones that have this issue either.


The Huawei Watch was and still is one of the best Android Wear devices you can buy today; it has a stellar screen, fantastic look, excellent battery life, and more. But instead of capitalizing on its success, Huawei has made one of the most boring and uninteresting devices to date – the Huawei Watch 2.


Similarly, the Honor 5X was a solid piece of hardware crippled by its software, which can be easily remedied. But instead building on that solid foundation they release its successor – the Honor 6X – which ships with an out of date OS version, crippled build quality, and packs one of the least durable displays on the market. The P10, which we have been speaking about, also ships with no oleophobic coating which is not only a standout in the market (particularly its segment), but is also just dumb. The recent string of decisions from Huawei are troubling seeing as their success in the US market, which can greatly help them in the long run, depends largely on enthusiasts, positive media coverage and word of mouth at this time; and despite my largely positive experiences with the Honor 8 Pro and Mate 9 I am hesitant to recommend them friends and family. The North American market does not appreciate corner cutting, and Huawei is truly not breaking away from the stereotype that troubles Chinese manufacturers in the US so much.


While Huawei’s decision making in these past few months leaves a lot to be desired, there is still time for them to correct their course and get back to improving their offerings. They need to be cautious though, they do not have the clout of a company like Samsung which can fairly easily rebound from total meltdown. There were some who thought Samsung would never come out from what happened with the Note 7, but soon after the S8 announcement they are boasting some of the best preorder numbers yet. Huawei makes a compelling phone with software that is quickly catching up to the competition, they just need to make sure they don’t shoot themselves in the foot by poor decision making because in an ultra-competitive market, someone is always nipping at their heels.



What do you think about the P10’s hardware lottery? Let us know in the comments.

Thursday

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Huawei had released the Huawei P10 and the P10 Plus at MWC 2017. The devices featured an excellent set of specifications including the powerful Kirin 960 processor, 4/6GBs of RAM, a fairly decently sized battery and sharp camera setups.


Consumers who purchased the Huawei P10 and P10 Plus expect nothing less from the device. After all, the phones did cost €649 ($685) and €699 ($738) respectively, which is not exactly the most affordable price tag. But it seems, users may have been getting less than what they expected.


As initially reported by GizmoChina, early adopters of the P10 and P10 Plus started reported large variances in the storage speeds on the device. Users who ran AndroBench to benchmark their storage speeds were surprised to find a very large variance in the reported speeds, with some users reporting sequential read speeds of over 700MBps, some getting ~500MBps, others getting ~400MBps and some even getting under 300MBps. The results definitely raised some questions as they indicated that there could be differences in the storage specifications of the devices.


Android Authority reached out to Huawei on the issue, to which Huawei admitted that it is using memory chips of different specifications on the P10 and P10 Plus!


Huawei did not go into specifics on the different combinations available, but collected data from early adopters indicates that the two phones can feature any combination of LPDDR3 or LPDDR4 for the RAM and eMMC 5.1, UFS 2.0 or UFS 2.1 for the storage.



Full Statement from Huawei



We are aware that there has been some recent online discussion in China regarding the flash memory in HUAWEI P10/P10 Plus.


Huawei employs the highest standards when selecting technologies and components for use in its products; we prioritize user experience, product quality and stability of supply. The HUAWEI P Series of smartphones is one of the company’s global flagship series and has become hugely popular worldwide, thanks to the excellent photography experience it provides. This popularity has led to enormous demand.


To meet global demand of millions of units, Huawei has employed the standard industry practice of sourcing solutions from multiple trusted suppliers to ensure a balance between user experience, quality and sustainable supply. Relying on a single component supply can lead to a shortage, meaning delays for consumers who wish to buy our new products. In the case of flash memory, in this instance, Huawei has chosen multiple simultaneous mainstream solution suppliers.


Huawei is and always has been, above all, committed to providing an extraordinary user experience. The performance of a single component can’t exactly reflect the overall system performance of a smartphone and these scores are not applicable in actual use scenarios.


Among all HUAWEI P10 marketing collateral, there has been no commitment to the use of only one specific flash memory. Different flash memory components are shipped randomly based on the supply at that time. There are no period batches or manual selection for chip batches, nor is there any discrimination or intention to defraud to consumers. Our approach is to measure the overall performance of our phones through software algorithms and chip tuning, rather than to focus on any single component.


In the HUAWEI P10/P10 Plus, we use multiple different suppliers for flash memory, which have been subject to strict and rigorous testing as part of our finished products, so as to ensure the excellence and consistency of user experience that we strive for. This has been reflected in the overwhelmingly positive worldwide response to the HUAWEI P10 since its launch, thanks to its beautiful design and the stunning artistic portrait photography experience it delivers.


Smartphone manufacturing is an industry with a very long supply chain. Huawei is committed to making the user experience the core factor in product design and innovations. We will continue to work closely with our partners to optimize the industry ecosystem and deliver even better products and experiences to consumers.



Huawei admits it is sourcing solutions through “multiple simultaneous mainstream solution suppliers”, which is marketing speak for using components of different specifications in different batches. While smaller variances exist and are unavoidably widespread across any electronic device because of how supply chains work, such large variances mean that a subset of users are getting devices that perform objectively worse than others, despite paying the same price for the device.


Huawei did cleverly foresee part of this problem when it launched the P10 and P10 Plus, as none of the marketing material of the device mention one specification of storage and RAM that will be used. Instead, the materials were mute on the specifications, so the company can claim that there was no misrepresentation on their end. So as far as the ‘quantity’ of RAM and storage were concerned, Huawei was true to its word and delivered accordingly; but as far as the ‘quality’ is concerned, Huawei can state that they did not mislead consumers since there was no marketing guarantee to begin with.


To rub more salt onto the wounds, Huawei claims that “the performance of a single component can’t exactly reflect the overall system performance of a smartphone and these scores are not applicable in actual use scenarios”. While these scores cannot exactly reflect overall performance, they are good indicators of performance in many scenarios. The differences between LPDDR4 and LPDDR3 are significant, and so is the difference between eMMC 5.1 and UFS 2.0 and UFS 2.1. Our very own Mario encapsulated the superiority of UFS 2.0 over eMMC 5.1 when analyzing why the OnePlus 3 was such an excellent device for real world performance.



The problem does not end here for consumers and potential consumers. Huawei says that “different flash memory components are shipped randomly based on the supply at that time”. So there is no way for a potential consumer to find out which combination of specifications is present in the device in front of him, unless he manages to install and use a benchmark app before making his purchase.


For users who have already purchased the device and have drawn the ‘bad’ lot with the combination of eMMC 5.1 and LPDDR3, there is no recourse available unfortunately. Even if they do return their device and get a replacement (which is unlikely in this scenario as this is not considered a ‘defect’ in any form, nor was there any misrepresentation on Huawei’s end), there is no guarantee that they will get a better combination. Huawei denies “any discrimination or intention to defraud to consumers” because their selection is random and not manual.


So if you do end up with a P10 or P10 Plus that is not the best combination, all we can recommend is to live with it. eMMC 5.1 and LPDDR3 are not unusable configurations by any means, and if your experience thus far has been great with the product, then this revelation does not change that fact. Still, it is concerning to pay the same flagship price for this product that others are paying, only to end up with a slower components.


What are your thoughts on the Huawei P10 and P10 Plus’s memory and storage specification debacle? Do you know of other OEMs who have done something similar with their products? Let us know in the comments below!



Source 1: GizmoChina Source 2: Android Authority

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